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..čeku te floskule koje se ponavljaju od Amerike do hr do bih..svi su isti samo je predznak drugačiji..radje pokušaj razumit i odredit se..
Nažalost nigdje u svijetu ne postoji alternativa. Bez obzira da li je u pitanju demokratski, "vjerski" ili socijalistički ustroj; S.A.D., Hrvatska, BiH (bilo koja strana), Srbija, Rusija, Kina, Arapske zemlje, Indija, Južna Amerika...

Naravno, ona "postoji" na papiru, ali kao da ne. Ili nema potrebnu snagu da se nametne, ili i sama teži populizmu da se domogne interesnih pozicija.

U komunističkim zemljama je to i neizvodivo. Zacementirana je vlast, znamo već. U "islamskim" također, uglavnom se vlast naslijeđuje preko loza, dinastija... a u demokratskim društvima (gdje ubrajam i zemlje Balkana) imaš nekoliko opcija od kojih je, kao što rekoh, samo pitanje koja od njih je manje zlo.

Sve je veći jaz između bogatih i siromašnih. Moderni imperijalizam dolazi do usijanja, obični smrtnici postaju sve nezadovoljniji i svijet je na dobrom putu da, pod vodstvom interesnih elita proguta samog sebe.
Ma truhli bogatasi pa ne znaju sta ce vise od sebe..
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..da sve čuvene ustaše iz republikanske stranke Amerike..hm..a da nisu cetnici.. :malagani
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Tko je čovjek s rogovima, najupečatljivija figura nasilnog upada Trumpovih pristaša u Kongres

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Lik s bizonovim rogovima na glavi pravio je u srijedu selfije po Capitolu i marširao kroz prostore Kongresa s megafonom
Piše: Snježana Pavić
REAKCIJE IZ SVIJETA
Merkel: ‘Snimke juriša na američki Kongres su me učinile i bijesnom i žalosnom‘
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Oni vjeruju da predsjednik Trump vodi tajni rat protiv moćnog sotonističkog pedofilskog lanca i protiv ljudi-guštera, koji u stvari upravljaju svijetom. Mjesecima su ponavljali da je Trump pobijedio na izborima, ali je pokraden, pa je logično da su sudjelovali u pokušaju puča u srijedu. Jedan od lidera QAnon zajednice iz Arizone Jake Agnelli najupečatljivija je figura nasilnog upada Trumpovih pristaša u Kongres.

Riječ je o slabo poznatom i ne baš uspješnom pjevaču i glumcu iz Arizone. Znan još i kao Q Šaman, Jake Agnelli lider je tog konspiracijskog pokreta kojeg je FBI stavio na popis potencijalno opasnih organizacija, ali Donald Trump rado i često dijeli njihove objave, pune nevjerojatnih teorija zavjere. Gol do pojasa, lica obojenog u crveno, bijelo i plavo, s vikinškim pokrivalom na glavi od životinjske kože i rogova, Angeli je u proteklih godinu dana postao upečatljiva figura ovog pokreta nastalog na teorijama urote, prenio je The Arizona Republic.

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Lik s bizonovim rogovima na glavi pravio je u srijedu selfije po Capitolu i marširao kroz prostore Kongresa s megafonom. QAnon je, kako piše Faktograf, izvedenica od Q Anonymous, dakle u doslovnom prijevodu anonimni Q. Facebook i druge društvene mreže zabranjuju tisuće njihovih stranica sa sumanutim izmišljotinama, ali Trump ih podržava i njihovi kandidati pobjeđuju na izbornim listama.


Sljedbenici QAnona odigrali su značajnu ulogu u prosvjedima "Zaustavite krađu" u posljednja dva mjeseca od pobjede Joea Bidena na američkim predsjedničkim izborima. U srijedu su mnogi QAnonovci slavili opsadu Capitola kao "prvi korak" u nekoj vrsti građanskog rata, prenosi Business Insider.

"Q Shaman" jedan je od brojnih likova u živopisnom svijetu QAnona čija djela inspiriraju i utječu na druge, pa slabo poznati glumac iz Arizone unutar pokreta uživa znatnu popularnost. U srijedu popodne on je uzeo mikrofon izvan zgrade Capitola i pozvao ljude da se raziđu, prenio je New York Times. Dio mladosti proveo je pokušavajući se probiti kao glumac, a potom i pjevač, ali u tome nije bio uspješan.
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Re: Tko je čovjek s rogovima, najupečatljivija figura nasilnog upada Trumpovih pristaša u Kongres

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Tbj...i kod njih bas zivopisnih likova. Mene ovo sve plasi.
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Iskra je napisao/la: 07 jan 2021, 17:36 Tbj...i kod njih bas zivopisnih likova. Mene ovo sve plasi.
Ovaj je klaun....ali taj qanon nije nimalo naivna organizacija...što je najgore, sad izlaze svjedočenja, kako su policajci sa njima sasvim fino razgovarali, a recimo nasilno maknuli svakog crnca iz blizine kongresa...
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Re: QAnon (IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON, AND Q: WHY IT’S IMPORTANT TO SEE QANON AS A ‘HYPER-REAL’ RELIGION)

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Da zalijepim jedan sažet tekst koji uokviruje do sada najbolje interpretirani koncept ove new-age religije.


In a May 13th article published in The Atlantic, Adrienne LaFrance offers her readers a deep dive into the QAnon movement. The article argues that when surveying QAnon, we’re not only examining a conspiracy theory, we’re observing the birth of a new religion. LaFrance underscores this argument by highlighting the apocalypticism found in QAnon; its clear-cut dualism between the forces of good and evil; the study and analysis of Qdrops as sacred texts, and the divine mystery of Q.

Following the mass suicide of the Peoples Temple in Jonestown in 1978, historian Jonathan Z. Smith wrote an essay locating the study and definition of religion within an academic context, where he highlights that “almost no attempt was made to gain any interpretative framework” of what occurred at Jonestown by academics. Adrienne LaFrance’s article on QAnon makes clear that the movement and its believers demand to be taken seriously. Her piece acts as a springboard to ask the question: Can QAnon be considered a religion?

Though many enjoy mocking the QAnon conspiracy theories and those who profit from them, it’s important to note that the movement’s adherents firmly believe in the theories—even to the detriment of their families and communities. Therefore, in an effort to avoid the mistakes of the past and to better understand the movement as it continues to grow and evolve, I suggest that we view QAnon as a “hyper-real religion.” Sociologist Adam Possamai, who coined the term, defines it as “a simulacrum of a religion created out of, or in symbiosis with, commodified popular culture which provides inspiration at a metaphorical level and/or is a source of beliefs for everyday life.” Or, to put it more simply, a religion with a strong connection to pop culture. This concept, based on Jean Baudrillard’s work on hyper-reality and simulations, was proposed to me as a possible way to understand QAnon by my colleague Martin Geoffroy. Hyper-real religion is based on the premise that pop culture shapes and creates our actual reality, with examples including, but not limited to: Heaven’s Gate, Church of All Worlds, Jediism, etc. As a movement in a constant state of mutation, QAnon clearly blurs the boundaries between popular culture and everyday life.

What this means is that technology and the marketplace of ideas have inverted the traditional relationship between the purveyors of religion and the consumers of religion. Thus, we see religious doctrinal authority (that is, those who can contribute to the religion’s teaching) being created by popular culture.

For example, the QAnon cosmology (how the world/universe appears; what it looks like; its characteristics, and types of creatures that populate it) and anthropology (ideas about human beings, their origin and destiny) are rooted in conspiracy theories, historical facts, and mythical history from film and popular culture. As such, Terry Gilliam’ Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is recommended by QAnon followers as evidence of the effects of Adrenochrome; The Matrix’s blue pill/red pill scene is used to frame the choice to either be a part of the Great Awakening or to remain “asleep”; and the slogan “Where We Go One, We Go All” is from the film White Squall, whose official YouTube trailer’s comments section is filled with QAnon followers (the top-rated comment, with over 5,000 up-votes, reads “Thumbs up if Q sent you here”). The prophetic figure of the movement, known only as ‘Q’ , also regularly references movies in their QDrops, as demonstrated from the screenshots below:

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The QAnon theology (conceptions of the sacred, gods, spirits, demons, the ancestors, culture heroes and/or other superhuman agents) is rooted in American evangelicalism and neo-charismatic movements developed in the 1970s and 1980s—specifically theology involving a worldwide cabal that controlled governments and aimed to control the freedoms of people through technology, medicine, and liberalism. For example, QAnon reworked elements of the Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) panic (aka “satanic panic”)that originated in the U.S. in the 80s. SRA was the belief that a global network of elites was breeding and kidnapping children for the purposes of pornography, sex trafficking, and Satanic ritual sacrifice.

Furthermore, QAnon adopts the language of spiritual warfare found in many neo-charismatic movements. Based on some of the data analytics work I’ve done, Ephesians 6:11-18 is the most shared verse among QAnon adherents. Given the verse’s apparent condemnation of governments, the reaction of QAnon to the pandemic is rooted in the language of spiritual warfare, especially when addressing conspiracy theories surrounding 5G, ID2020, Bill Gates and vaccines, HR 6666, etc. Since the start of the pandemic, QAnon have spread a false racist theory that Asians were more susceptible to the coronavirus and that white people were immune to COVID-19; they’ve promoted drinking bleach to cure the virus; that COVID-19 is a Chinese bioweapon and that the virus release was a joint venture between China and the Democrats to stop Trump’s re-election by destroying the economy. If that weren’t enough, they also played a key role in promoting the Plandemic video and the ObamaGate and #FilmYourHospital hashtag; and forced Oprah Winfrey and Hilary Duff to come out with statements declaring that they are not pedophiles.

When taking into account how much neo-charismatics, American evangelicalism, theological conspiracy theories, and spiritual warfare is influenced by the distrust of the everyday reality as being false (with their reality being ‘true’), one could make the argument that QAnon theology is not only influenced by pop culture, but is in fact, deeply rooted in the conception of the sacred within a hyper-real world.

Some might argue that a hyper-real religion isn’t a “real” religion because it’s invented, but scholars of religion don’t validate or discredit claims of what constitutes ‘true’ religion, because it’s true to the people we study. As a scholar of religion I study what people do when dealing with the sacred, rather than try to validate the religious message or experience. What people do when dealing with the sacred is routinized over time as believers construct their religion. All religions, hyper-real ones included, are socially constructed and are thus invented. QAnon is blatantly invented as it openly uses works of popular culture, media, entertainment, American evangelicalism and conspiracy theories at its basis, that have been organically developed across time and space by a community of believers. Belief in QAnon reflects a created hyper-real world based on such theories.

This is unsurprising, as Travis View stated on PBS’s The Open Mind “we’re living in an age where conspiracy theories are promoted at the highest levels of power, when it wasn’t that long ago conspiracy theories were the pastime of the powerless.” Similarly in 2018, Joseph Uscinski stated that QAnon is different from normal conspiracy theories. “Conspiracy theories are for losers,” he told the Daily Beast’s Will Sommer, “you don’t expect the winning party to use them.”

By framing QAnon as a hyper-real religion, it can offer insight into the confusion that people feel when discussing the movement, which is critical for observers, scholars, and decision-makers who need to take QAnon seriously. The past months have highlighted how QAnon is a public health threat, a threat to national security, and a threat to democratic institutions.

The essence of conspiracy beliefs like QAnon lies in the attempts to delineate and explain evil; it’s about theodicy, not secular evidence. QAnon offers comfort in an uncertain—and unprecedented—age as the movement crowdsources answers to the inexplicable. QAnon becomes the master narrative capable of simply explaining various complex events and providing solace for modern problems: a pandemic, economic uncertainty, political polarization, war, child abuse, etc.

The result is a worldview characterized by a sharp distinction between the realms of good and evil. The movement accomplishes this by purporting to be empirically relevant. That is, they claim that QDrops are testable by the accumulation of evidence about the observable world in fighting evil. Those who subscribe to QDrops are presented with elaborate productions of evidence in order to substantiate QAnon’s claims, including source citation and other academic techniques.

However, their quest for decoding QDrops masks a deeper concern: the more sweeping a conspiracy theory’s claims, the less relevant evidence becomes—notwithstanding the insistence that QAnon is empirically sound. At its heart, QAnon is non-falsifiable. No matter how much evidence journalists, academics, and civil society offer as a counter to the claims promoted by the movement, belief in QAnon as the source of truth is a matter of faith rather than proof.

Therefore, rather than ask questions like, How can people believe in QAnon when so many of its claims fly in the face of facts?, we should instead ask What are QAnoners doing with their belief system? QAnon believers have committed acts of violence in response to QAnon conspiracy theories. Elected officials or those campaigning for elected office have campaigned on QAnon. Those studying and combating the movement need to move beyond viewing it as a mere conspiracy theory; QAnon has grown beyond that. We are, as Adrienne LaFrance asserted, witnessing the birth of a religious movement. QAnon as a belief system only appears to be dependent on Donald Trump’s presidency and his ability to remain in power. Whether we will be speaking of future or former President Trump, the person known as Q will likely fuel the movement for a long time to come. Q will continue to claim special insights, knowledge, and frame things for their followers in terms of their enemies’ alleged ambitions.

If Donald Trump wins in November, QAnon will be vindicated in their beliefs and say this is what God has mandated, reinforcing the belief that they are right. If Trump loses, it will be attributed to the Deep State Luciferian cabal and they will have a role to play in fighting against the fake government that’s replaced Donald Trump.

QAnon has become a hermeneutical lens through which to interpret the world. Already we’ve seen a formalized QAnon religion at Omega Kingdom Ministries (OKM). OKM is part of a network of independent congregations (or ekklesia) called Home Congregations Worldwide (HCW). The organization’s spiritual adviser is Mark Taylor, a self-proclaimed “Trump Prophet” and QAnon influencer with a large social media following on Twitter and YouTube. At OKM, QAnon is a hermeneutic by which the Bible is interpreted; and the Bible, in turn, serves as an interpretive lens for QAnon. Furthermore, QAnon is built into their evangelical Christian rituals. OKM may be a sign for what’s to come in terms of QAnon’s proximity to evangelical and neo-charismatic movements in the U.S.

In categorizing QAnon as a hyper-real religion rather than a decentralized grouping of conspiracy theorists, it provides an analytical framework to quantify and qualify QAnon-inspired acts of violence as ideologically motivated violent extremism. Furthermore, there’s an increasing overlap between QAnon and the far-right/Patriot movements on Telegram, a messaging app that has attracted extremists because due to its privacy protections. From the perspective of national security, we need to be prepared for more acts of violence by QAnon believers as it’s proven to be a catalyst for radicalization to violence, terrorism and murder.

By considering QAnon as a hyper-real religion, it becomes possible to frame how QAnon has found resonance not only within the American electoral system, but with populists around the globe. This is especially important not only in the context of elections, but also when framing the global response to the pandemic and public health. Policy makers at all levels need to take the QAnon ideology seriously when planning strategies to mitigate the spread of the novel coronavirus.

QAnon may not be a recognized religion, a tax exempt 501c3 institution, or the kind of traditional brick-and-mortar religion most are familiar with. However, by framing QAnon as a religion—in particular, a hyper-real religion—we create a framework that helps us better study, report and understand QAnon. More importantly, it demonstrates that the movement needs to be taken seriously and has the socio-political and behavioral impacts that other religions have. In doing so, it provides a pathway to protecting our societies and institutions from the public health, democratic, and national security threat that QAnon potentially poses.
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This Will Change Your Life


Why the grandiose promises of multilevel marketing and QAnon conspiracy theories go hand in hand

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Less than 1 percent of the independent distributors who sell essential oils and related products through the Utah-based multilevel-marketing company Young Living reach that top ranking. Those who have net an average annual income of $1.5 million and resemble celebrities within the organization, counting tens of thousands of followers on social media. Their success sometimes even allows them to charge for access to advice on how to become more like them—a private Facebook group for business coaching from Schrandt costs $10 a month, and the cheapest single ticket for a recent “Diamond Bound” conference she hosted in Dallas was $309.

On a Friday night in March, Schrandt shared a revelation on one of her Facebook pages. “I’m awake!” she announced. President Donald Trump would soon prove that he had been Q all along, she wrote, and this was just the beginning of a “spiritual war” in defense of all that is good. The post continued for hundreds of words about the evils of the mainstream media and the mythology of QAnon, which holds that Trump is a warrior taking on a global ring of Satan-worshipping pedophiles, who are also in cahoots with the “deep state,” and tend to be Democratic politicians, Hollywood celebrities, or the owners of seemingly random small businesses. The post has since disappeared, but not before it went out to nearly 13,000 of Schrandt’s Facebook followers—in her post she notes that she had already sent the information to “1,000 or so” of them privately. (Schrandt suggested that Facebook removed the post; Facebook declined to comment.)

The Concordia University researcher Marc-André Argentino has a name for people like Schrandt: “Pastel QAnon.” These women—they are almost universally women—are doing the work of sanitizing QAnon, often pairing its least objectionable elements (Save the children!) with equally inoffensive imagery: Millennial-pink-and-gold color schemes, a winning smile. And many of them are members of multilevel-marketing organizations—a massive, under-examined sector of the American retail economy that is uniquely fertile ground for conspiracism. These are organizations built on foundational myths (that the establishment is keeping secrets from you, that you are on a hero’s journey to enlightenment and wealth), charismatic leadership, and shameless, constant posting. The people at the top of them are enviable, rich, and gifted at wrapping everything that happens—in their personal lives, or in the world around them—into a grand narrative about how to become as happy as they are. In 2020, what’s happening to them is dark and dangerous, but it looks gorgeous.


Over the summer, as networks of women on Instagram and Facebook stoked outrage over the Netflix debut of the French film Cuties, a movie about the exploitation and sexualization of young girls, Schrandt was among those who urged followers to cancel their Netflix accounts to avoid “supporting pedophilia.” Conspiracy theories about the pandemic have also spread through these groups; Schrandt recently suggested that contact-tracing programs were a plot to turn the United States into a communist country, and on one of her Instagram accounts, which has 22,000 followers, she explained that masks were “about mind control.” Distrust of the mainstream media and paranoia about the liberal bias of major internet companies are a common overtone in these circles as well—when telling her followers to watch ShadowGate, a misinformation-riddled “documentary” about a global plot against Trump, Schrandt was careful not to say the title outright, instead spelling it out via clues, and reminding followers to look for it on the alternative search platform DuckDuckGo instead of Google. (Though this is not particularly common in QAnon circles, Schrandt has also suggested that the Earth may be flat.)

Schrandt declined to be interviewed for this story beyond telling me that her posts were “completely genuine,” directing me to a Young Living spokesperson, and later signing off with a polite “Hugs, Jordan.” In a recent Instagram video, she talks straight to the camera, with a light-sepia filter smoothing away contours of the bones in her face. “I’ve literally built my brand and my businesses on being real and genuine and a thinker,” she says somberly. “An independent thinker.”

Young living has not endorsed QAnon in any way, but it doesn’t appear eager to stop its biggest stars from endorsing it. “As a company, we do not have the right to censor the personal, political, religious views or opinions of our independent distributors, employees, or customers, unless it is directly related to Young Living,” a spokesperson told me in an emailed statement. Asked what the company’s response would be in the case of a Young Living distributor posting about QAnon and referencing their Young Living affiliation in the post, the spokesperson said, “We would reach out to remind the distributor that while they may share personal or political beliefs, they are not to do so in association with Young Living.” The spokesperson declined to comment on any specific situations, including Schrandt’s March post.

Young Living is a $1.5 billion brand, according to its most recent revenue report, and it is notorious for swirling together fact and fiction. It was founded in 1994 by Gary Young, an alternative-medicine advocate who had previously been convicted of posing as a health practitioner, and his wife, Mary Young—and it has developed a reputation for being particularly “cult-like,” a phrase used in a 2019 class-action lawsuit against it. The company has also regularly pushed the boundaries with claims about its products, and was warned by the FDA in 2014 not to imply that essential oils can serve as a treatment for the Ebola virus. More recently, Business Insider reported that some Young Living distributors had been advertising essential oils on social media as potential cures for COVID-19. (In a statement, a Young Living spokesperson said that distributors are “wholly prohibited” from making these claims, and that the company has been taking “corrective action” when they do so.)


“Direct selling” was a $35 billion industry last year, propped up by 6.8 million sellers in the United States. These sellers—who are 74 percent women, according to an industry analysis—typically buy products from the company at a “wholesale” price (in many cases much higher than the language would suggest) and then sell them through their social networks. In multilevel-marketing organizations, each new person who joins is assigned a mentor who is slightly higher up than they are, with whom they’re required to share a portion of their profits. Money runs up from the base of the, uh, triangle, through what’s called an upline. It is notoriously difficult—sometimes nearly impossible—to make money with direct selling if you enter the company once the top ranks are filled and the only room is at the bottom. Last year, Young Living claimed to have more than 3 million members worldwide, and 89 percent of those distributors hadn’t moved up the sales ranks at all, netting an average annual income of $3. Meanwhile, women like Jordan Schrandt are at the tippy top, which means that there are likely at least thousands of women beholden to her in some way—watching from afar as she posts about her success, and giving her a chunk of their income.

Julie, 46, became a member of Young Living in 2015. Some money from her sales and purchases gets tossed up the ladder—through several rungs—until it reaches Melissa Poepping, a Royal Crown Diamond who was apparently captivated by the Wayfair conspiracy theory in July. “Tell me it’s just a crazy theory. It’s not,” Poepping wrote. She also directed her 18,000 followers to go to Etsy’s website and search for listings that could be fronts for child trafficking, tagging the post “#darktolight,” a popular QAnon slogan. (Julie asked to go by only her first name, out of concern about professional consequences. Poepping did not respond to multiple requests for comment.)

“I don’t really like contributing to Melissa’s bottom line,” Julie said. She believes Poepping’s posts are particularly dangerous because of her high rank in Young Living. “When you see leadership posting these things, there are people who just accept it, because they’ve trusted and accepted what these leaders have said in the past on other things.” Later, she added, “[These women] have a target audience out of the box. It’s different than just, like, someone’s cousin posting something.”

The multilevel-marketing industry isn’t just structurally conducive to spreading outlandish ideas: It also has some philosophical crossover with QAnon. “I can’t say that I’m surprised by ties between QAnon and multilevel marketing,” William Keep, a marketing professor at the College of New Jersey who started studying the industry in the 1990s, told me. “Unfortunately, their popularity and shared sympathy make some sense.” The industry has been at odds with governments “literally for decades,” Keep said. It loathes oversight and regulation. It loves a direct sales pitch. Many multilevel-marketing companies have had close ties to conservative politics, and many have antagonistic relationships with bodies like the FDA, or the idea of authority in general, in cases where products are marketed in ways that flout scientific consensus or medical expertise.

“[Multilevel-marketing companies] claim to sell the way they do, within these networks, because their products are so special or revolutionary that the mainstream marketplace can’t handle it ... the FDA would never approve this company,” says Jane Marie, who hosts and produces The Dream, a podcast about multilevel marketing. “I think it lines up really well with the QAnon attitude of, like, the government doesn’t want you to know this.”


And while the industry started offline, it is now reliant on its top sellers’ social networks. Success is dependent on incessant sharing, particularly on Instagram and Facebook. Where once a person’s downline would be people who lived near them, or were proximate to them through church or family connections, now, a person who is high up in an organization can reach people all over the country, and their social-media brand does all the work.

In 2015, when Kristen, a 49-year-old who lives in Minnesota, joined Young Living, she was added to a slew of Facebook groups, meeting tons of new people, and absorbing a lot of advice about how best to use the products. Now, she’s startled by how often she sees these same people sharing QAnon conspiracy theories on their pages. “When people join these [Facebook] groups, they want to be friends with the leaders of the groups,” she said. Though QAnon and other conspiracy theories don’t tend to turn up in the groups themselves—which are usually tightly associated with the Young Living brand—many members form secondary networks outside of them by friending or following each other.

“You’ve got these people who are really making a lot of money in the company, and people want to emulate them ... They have a ton of people following them, not just people in their downlines, but people from across the company who want their success.” In her experience, this is where the combination becomes toxic: A habit of believing information you see shared on social media collides with faith in the lovely and successful women who seem to know all. (She asked to go by her first name, out of concern about harassment from QAnon believers.)

In august, facebook announced a set of policy changes that would minimize QAnon’s “ability to organize.” Earlier this month, the company cracked down even further, saying it would remove Instagram accounts, Facebook groups, and Facebook pages devoted to QAnon, treating the group the way it would an extremist militia group. But the influencer model of QAnon benefits from a soft spot in the policy: Facebook will still allow individuals to express support for the movement on their personal pages. And now that social platforms have done serious work to remove the most obvious and most violent QAnon discussions, “Pastel QAnon” is perhaps the group with the largest, most uncontrolled reach. Many of the women you could sort into this category never explicitly use the word QAnon, or acknowledge where the information they’re parroting is coming from, and they are professionally trained to understand that the way they present themselves online is visible for broad scrutiny. They know exactly how to stay on a platform, how to avoid accountability, and how to captivate an audience, long term.

On Instagram, distributors for Arbonne, a multilevel-marketing company that sells a baffling number of skin-care and nutrition products, have been particularly active in promoting #SaveTheChildren—an anti-child-trafficking effort that has attracted thousands of ostensibly well-meaning people, but now runs primarily on conspiracy theories and bad information and is tightly entwined with QAnon. Cecilia Stoll, who has reached Arbonne’s top sales rank of Executive National Vice President, started discussing “elite pedophile rings” with her followers in July, then shared a screenshot of a Zoom call with many other Arbonne representatives, organizing to #SaveTheChildren. In August, she reposted a slideshow from the anonymous “Pastel QAnon” account Little Miss Patriot, which has been banned by Instagram several times and is now memorialized by a fan account. Along with nine other Arbonne distributors, all ranked National Vice President or above, she’s an administrator of the Facebook group “Operation Save Our Children.” (Stoll did not return multiple requests for comment; according to a post on her Instagram, the group has been disabled by Facebook.)


Many of the Arbonne representatives publicly supporting this cause seem unaware of its connection to QAnon, even when they use phrases like “darkness to light” and speculate about the complicity of “elites” and the media. Others appear to have been pulled further in. Allie Richards, an Arbonne distributor close to the bottom of the ladder, has been filling her Instagram Grid with cozy pictures of her dog, her boyfriend, her friends, and her Arbonne products, but her Stories were full of QAnon conspiracy theories this summer. Her “research” is fueled by Arbonne Herbal Detox Tea and Greens Balance powder, she notes. (Richards responded to an initial request for an interview, but not to subsequent attempts to schedule one. Later, when I asked why she had deleted some of her saved Stories, she said, “I deleted only [because] I don’t like social media, but everything that was in that [Story Highlight] I stand by.”)

Others make it difficult to tell how much they know about what they’re sharing. Miranda Burcham, a 43-year-old Arbonne Executive National Vice President, told me she’d been supportive of organizations that fight child trafficking for at least 10 years. During the pandemic shutdowns, she became more involved in Operation Underground Railroad—an organization that has no direct ties to QAnon but has become a favorite among the QAnon-adjacent. She emphasized that she was not speaking as a representative of Arbonne, before explaining her point of view: The media is writing off child trafficking as a conspiracy theory in general, and focusing on anything else but the kids.


When I noted that she was following, and had reposted screenshots from, one of the more popular QAnon accounts, she said that she found the account well researched and “very pro-American.” I asked how she felt about the theories the account shared, namely that cabals of Hollywood celebrities are drinking children’s blood. “I can’t guess if that’s true or not. I would hope it’s not true. However, I think there are many things wrong with the world that none of us are aware of, ” she told me. Asked how she feels about QAnon, she told me, “The only thing that I ever know about QAnon is that they’re patriotic.”

As with much conspiracy thinking, the spread of QAnon in these networks is not just dangerous, but also deeply sad. The grandiose promises of the QAnon worldview are mirrored and illuminated by the similar promises of multilevel marketing: equally false, and equally predicated on a desperate search for meaning and stability.

Alyssa Schmidt, a distributor for the multilevel-marketing company Monat, which sells hair products, blends these promises together expertly. Amid inspirational, aspirational posts about her experience with direct selling—tagged #bossbabe or showing off a new Cadillac—Schmidt also shares “the truth” on Pizzagate and the mainstream media’s campaign to “smear and censor” true journalists like her. (When I messaged her for this story, she said she had never mentioned QAnon on her page, adding, “You guys are nuts,” and threatening legal action.)


In a pinned Instagram Story, she talks about researching sex trafficking, posts in support of Donald Trump executing “child killers,” and then segues directly into a promotional post for Monat, writing, “If you need extra income, I cannot recommend this more … If you’re new around here, this is my ‘money-making’ gig that allows me to run my own schedule & fight sex trafficking.” The secret of attaining financial freedom is tied directly to uncovering all kinds of hidden truths about the world.

“You can fit any kind of message into the structures of a personal story,” Emily Hund, a social-media researcher at the University of Pennsylvania, told me. “It’s so much easier to weave things in when you’re just chatting, talking about yourself and your struggles and your stress levels and illnesses and essential oils and supplements … and your own beliefs and This is what works for me, you should look into it.”

Multilevel marketing preys on the fact that the financial situation of the average person in the United States has gotten worse over the past several decades. So does the incentive structure of Instagram. “The influencer system in general is an open response to and a symptom of precarity,” Hund said. Many of the women who follow these influencers make little money with direct selling, and spend their time consuming stories and images created by people who seem to understand something important: You were born with all the potential you’ll ever need to become a millionaire, but the world has been hiding it from you. I’ll help you find it, these women promise. Then they’ll help you find other hidden truths, too. All the while, their livelihoods depend on your continued belief in everything they’re saying.

In one 2000 study of Amway distributors, researchers found that members of the multilevel-marketing company would generally only stay involved in the organization if they came to see it as part of their own identity. (I have not seen any Amway distributors promoting QAnon, but was curious about the emotional dynamics of the multilevel-marketing business structure in general.) They were actively encouraged to seek out mentor relationships and to assign meaning to their work. Crucial to this process was the act of “dream building,” and crucial to the longevity of their identification was that the dreams get bigger and bigger. Over time, the dreams tended to move beyond money, or lifestyle aspirations, or even helping one’s own family. “As these dreams evolved, they became more abstract, more difficult, and took longer to fulfill,” the organizational behavior researcher Michael Pratt wrote. “They also involved helping larger and larger numbers of people, such as ‘saving’ the United States and the world through selling Amway.”

The women who sit at the tops of multilevel-marketing companies’ triangular-shaped structures have all they could reasonably ask for when it comes to money and security; it seems that now they want something more spiritually satisfying. They want to save some children, inspire “free thinkers.” They want to change lives.
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The Conspiracy Theory to Rule Them All


What explains the strange, long life of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

The modern world’s most consequential conspiracy text was barely noticed when it first appeared in a little-read Russian newspaper in 1903. The message of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is straightforward, and terrifying: The rise of liberalism had provided Jews with the tools to destroy institutions—the nobility, the church, the sanctity of marriage—whole. Soon, they would take control of the world, as part of a revenge plot dating back to the ascendancy of Christendom. The text, ostensibly narrated by a Jewish leader, describes this plan in detail, relying on centuries-old anti-Jewish tropes, and including lengthy expositions on monetary, media, and electoral manipulation. It announces Jewry’s triumph as imminent: The world order will fall into the hands of a cunning elite, who have schemed forever and are now fated to rule until the end of time.

It was a fabrication, and a clumsy one, largely copied from the obscure, French-language political satire Dialogue aux enfers entre Machiavel et Montesquieu, or The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu, by Maurice Joly. But it has enjoyed a remarkable appeal, despite various attempts to ban it and calls for individuals to denounce it—and now, in our conspiracy-saturated moment, it has decisively reemerged.

The book sells widely in Turkey, Syria, and Japan; remains a staple of Russian Orthodox bookshops; and in 2002, was the subject of a long-running Egyptian television series. It is widely available on eBay and on the Barnes & Noble website. The British charity Oxfam sold it on its site until March of this year. When asked by The New York Times in 2018 to name the books at her bedside, Alice Walker listed David Icke’s And the Truth Will Set You Free, a contemporary summary of The Protocols. At a 2019 congressional hearing, the former National Security Council official Fiona Hill described The Protocols’ image of a greedy, devious Jew as “the longest-running anti-Semitic trope we have.” Last week, when an automated Twitter bot managed by the FBI posted a 139-page file containing the text and the agency’s documents on it, hate-filled praise streamed in alongside the replies condemning the tweet for its lack of context. For devotees, The Protocols’ capacity to explain the world remains so resonant that the COVID-19 pandemic has now been blamed on the machinations of the ubiquitous Jewish elders.

Amountain of writings has surfaced over the past century and more, each devoted to revealing the supposed perfidy of the Jews. But nearly all have disappeared: The back shelves of research libraries are packed with anti-Semitic best sellers now turned to dust. (Who still reads Houston Stewart Chamberlain’s The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, a massive best seller celebrated by George Bernard Shaw at the time of its publication in 1899 as a “masterpiece”?) Even Hitler’s Mein Kampf is rarely cited, though it remains a favorite of the Nation of Islam’s Louis Farrakhan and in a newly energized far right.


But The Protocols has survived, more so than any other text of its kind. It has done so not because its ideas are particularly original, and certainly not because they’re correct. It has done so for the simple reason that The Protocols is, curiously enough, a compelling read. Conspiracy theories are many things, but most of all, they’re narratives—understandable, comprehensive stories about how the world works, complete with the arcs and the rhythms of any other epic tale of heroes and villains. Part of what makes certain ones endure is how well they unfurl that story.


he Protocols’ voice is cool, patronizing, vile; the voice of someone who is ready to perform any task, however dastardly, in the march toward world domination. This, then, is no secondary source, unlike other familiar, formulaic expressions of anti-Semitism, but a chance to overhear a consequential Jewish leader plotting the fate of the world. This narrative immediacy is the difference between a newspaper article and a novel, between remove and urgency. The Protocols is not, purportedly, mere narration of a diabolical plot—it’s evidence of one. It projects authority by obscuring its authorship, not unlike various religious texts—or, to use a much more recent and pertinent example, the anonymous dispatches that form the foundation of QAnon.


And beneath its wild, hate-filled surface, The Protocols has a surprisingly solid, if plagiarized, core. Joly’s source material is an astute portrait of modernity’s ills, imagining a collision between (the well-meaning, but inadequate) Montesquieu and (the brilliant, immeasurably more persuasive) Machiavelli, and ultimately reveals the susceptibility of liberal society to manipulation and distraction using war, or greed, or the clouds of nostalgia. It was a prescient view of the world, as the political theorist Hans Speier has said, one that perceived “the hazards of popular sovereignty as well as the abuse of power by social engineers.” Nearly everything about The Protocols is wrong, but just enough about its depiction of the onset of totalitarianism is insightful that it is harder to dismiss than other, more outlandish conspiracy theories.

And though its most fervent following is on the far right, the text itself is without any emphatic leftist or rightist coloring. This is why it can be embraced as it is today by disparate groups such as evangelicals, neo-Nazis, some anti-Israel activists, and a slice of black-metal fans. It is endlessly versatile, a Rorschach test onto which a great assortment of convictions can readily be sketched.

Perhaps the finest of all scholars writing today about The Protocols is Michael Hagemeister, a mild, left-leaning German based at the Ruhr University in Bochum. His entry into the study of this text provides a useful look at its rapid move in recent years from obscurity at the far fringe of political life to something close to the mainstream.

Hagemeister was introduced to The Protocols when he was visiting the Soviet Union in the early 1980s to research a dissertation on the 19th-century right-leaning philosopher Nikolai Fedorov. Hagemeister’s interest in Fedorov, coupled with his ancestry—relatives had served as senior figures in the Romanov administration—convinced the rightist intellectuals he encountered that he was a kindred spirit. As a result, one of them, a specialist in German thought, asked if on his next trip he might bring along a copy of a book of great importance, a book that proved worldwide Jewish domination.

To Hagemeister, the plot laid out in The Protocols seemed no more current than the fear of the Illuminati or the Freemasons, the stuff of a Dan Brown bestseller. Its fortune has risen considerably since. Having now spent 30 years studying the text, Hagemeister told me recently that he isn’t surprised that it’s been used to explain the pandemic. The Protocols feels all the more pertinent, he added, at moments of crisis such as this one, when the righteous are urged to close their ranks to repel the enemy—a strategy the book suggests could effectively stop the Jews. Like QAnon’s missives or some of the finest novels, The Protocols is a narrative about the crucial moment just before cataclysm, and the notion that those horrors can still be averted with a swift and unequivocal response.

The belief captured by The Protocols that the world is in the clutches of a cabal—mighty, yet small enough to fit itself into the discreet, darkened corner of a club—certainly isn’t the sole possession of those who loathe Jews. But Jews, whether in the guise of Soros or Rothschild, Disraeli or Marx, provide a time-tested, biblically vetted vortex. And at a jittery moment such as ours, when it’s so easy to feel the world is cascading out of control, it’s revealing that The Protocols has shed its archaic feel.
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Ima li sta na nasem jeziku pojasnjeno?
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Pa amerika je puna okultnih drustava i sotonistickih klanova.. medju njima i uglednih politicara,obavljaju rituale..
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Ta kabala pa i madona je clan toga otvoreno kaze..

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Puna je i Bosna vjernika, među njima političara - pa pokradoše i prevariše sve živo. Ne znam samo kako ih nije sramota ući u džamiju ili crkvu i zaklinjati se Bogom.
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Nadati se da si shvatio koncept ovih postova.
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Sleepy Joe je napisao/la: 10 jan 2021, 16:10 Nadati se da si shvatio koncept ovih postova.
Nisam se ni trudio, iskreno rečeno, ali samo kažem.
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Nisam mislio na tebe druže, skoro u isto vrijeme smo ostavili post.
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Ommadawn je napisao/la: 10 jan 2021, 16:10 Puna je i Bosna vjernika, među njima političara - pa pokradoše i prevariše sve živo. Ne znam samo kako ih nije sramota ući u džamiju ili crkvu i zaklinjati se Bogom.
Dilera,kamatara svi u prvom safu..

Pa da imaju stida ne bi se tim stvarima bavili..

A u americi samo redovno placaj porez a otvaraj sta hoces..
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